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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
          SENATE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                        
                         March 17, 2023                                                                                         
                           1:32 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Jesse Bjorkman, Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Click Bishop, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Elvi Gray-Jackson                                                                                                       
Senator Kelly Merrick                                                                                                           
Senator Forrest Dunbar                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 70                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to coverage  for additional insureds under owner                                                               
and contractor  controlled insurance programs; and  providing for                                                               
an effective date."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 88                                                                                                              
"An Act  relating to the  Public Employees' Retirement  System of                                                               
Alaska  and the  teachers' retirement  system; providing  certain                                                               
employees an  opportunity to choose  between the  defined benefit                                                               
and  defined   contribution  plans   of  the   Public  Employees'                                                               
Retirement System of Alaska and  the teachers' retirement system;                                                               
and providing for an effective date."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  70                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: OWNER & CONTRACTOR CONTROLLED INSURANCE                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
02/15/23       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/15/23       (S)       L&C                                                                                                    
02/17/23       (S)       JUD REFERRAL ADDED AFTER L&C                                                                           
02/20/23       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
02/20/23       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
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03/01/23       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
03/01/23       (S)       -- Public Testimony --                                                                                 
03/17/23       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  88                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: RETIREMENT SYSTEMS; DEFINED BENEFIT OPT.                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): GIESSEL                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
03/01/23       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/01/23       (S)       L&C, FIN                                                                                               
03/13/23       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
03/13/23       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/13/23       (S)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/15/23       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
03/15/23       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/15/23       (S)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/17/23       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LORI WING-HEIER, Director                                                                                                       
Division of Insurance                                                                                                           
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided a recap of SB 70.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MARGE STONEKING, Alaska Associate State Director of Advocacy                                                                    
American Association of Retired Persons-Alaska (AARP-Alaska)                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Offered invited testimony on SB 88.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
TOM KLAAMEYER, President                                                                                                        
National Education Association-Alaska (NEA-Alaska)                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Offered invited testimony on SB 88.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
LON GARRISON, Executive Director                                                                                                
Association of Alaska School Boards (AASB)                                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Offered invited testimony on SB 88.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DARRELL EVANS, President                                                                                                        
Anchorage Police Department Employees Association                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Offered invited testimony on SB 88.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
KEITH BRAINARD, Research Director                                                                                               
National Association of State Retirement Administrators                                                                         
Austin, Texas                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: Offered invited testimony on SB 88.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
JOHN DUFFY, representing self                                                                                                   
Mat-Su Valley, Alaska                                                                                                           
POSITION STATEMENT: Offered invited testimony on SB 88.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DOMINIC LOZANO, President                                                                                                       
Alaska Professional Fire Fighters Association (AKPFFA)                                                                          
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Offered invited testimony on SB 88.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTOPHER WRIGHT, representing self                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 88.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SARAH CANNARD, member                                                                                                           
Alaska Professional Firefighters Association; IAFF Local 4303                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 88.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONOR KINCAID, member                                                                                                           
Juneau Career Firefighters IAFF Local 4303                                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 88.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
NICK CLARK, President                                                                                                           
Fairbanks Firefighters Union Local 1324                                                                                         
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 88.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COREY AIST, President                                                                                                           
Anchorage Education Association (AEA)                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 88.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
NICK STEELE, representing self                                                                                                  
Kodiak, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 88.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
NATHAN ERFURTH, President                                                                                                       
Kenai Peninsula Education Association                                                                                           
Kenai, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 88.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER BAKER, representing self                                                                                                
Soldotna, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 88.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SHANE WESTCOTT, member                                                                                                          
Alaska Professional Fire Fighters Association and Local 1264                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 88.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:32:02 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  JESSE  BJORKMAN  called  the  Senate  Labor  and  Commerce                                                             
Standing Committee meeting  to order at 1:32 p.m.  Present at the                                                               
call  to  order  were  Senators  Gray-Jackson,  Dunbar,  Merrick,                                                               
Bishop, and Chair Bjorkman.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
         SB  70-OWNER & CONTRACTOR CONTROLLED INSURANCE                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:33:07 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN announced the consideration  of SENATE BILL NO. 70                                                               
"An Act relating to coverage  for additional insureds under owner                                                               
and contractor  controlled insurance programs; and  providing for                                                               
an effective date."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He asked Ms. Wing-Heier to provide a summary of the bill.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:33:36 PM                                                                                                                    
LORI WING-HEIER,  Director, Division of Insurance,  Department of                                                               
Commerce, Community and  Economic Development, Anchorage, Alaska,                                                               
provided a recap  of SB 70. She reminded the  members that during                                                               
the  previous  hearing  she  said to  expect  an  amendment.  She                                                               
explained  that the  division  originally  thought that  deleting                                                               
paragraph  (4)  from  Section  1  addressed  an  issue  regarding                                                               
additional insureds.  Insurance brokers and others  disagreed and                                                               
the division  decided to restore  paragraph (4) and  add language                                                               
to  clarify that  additional insureds  are  allowed on  insurance                                                               
policies  if required  by contract.  This is  what the  amendment                                                               
does. She provided an example.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BJORKMAN solicited a motion.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:35:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP moved to adopt Amendment 1, work order 33-                                                                       
GS1009\A.2, for SB 70.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                 33-GS1009\A.2                                                                  
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                          AMENDMENT 1                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE                                                                                                      
     TO:  SB 70                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 9:                                                                                                            
          Delete "or                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
     Page 1, line 11 - 13:                                                                                                      
          Delete "[; OR                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
               (4)  INSURANCE POLICIES  ENDORSED TO NAME ONE                                                                  
          OR MORE PERSONS AS ADDITIONAL INSUREDS]"                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
          Insert "; or                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
               (4)  insurance policies  endorsed to name one                                                                    
               or  more persons  as additional  insureds, if                                                                
               naming a  person as an additional  insured is                                                                
               a   term  required   by   a  contract;   this                                                                
               paragraph   does  not   apply  to   an  owner                                                                
               controlled    or     contractor    controlled                                                                
               insurance  program for  a major  construction                                                                
               project                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:36:09 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN found no objection and Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:36:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN held SB 70 in committee.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:36:24 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
        SB  88-RETIREMENT SYSTEMS; DEFINED BENEFIT OPT.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:37:48 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN   reconvened  the   meeting  and   announced  the                                                               
consideration  of SENATE  BILL NO.  88  "An Act  relating to  the                                                               
Public Employees'  Retirement System of Alaska  and the teachers'                                                               
retirement system; providing certain  employees an opportunity to                                                               
choose  between  the  defined benefit  and  defined  contribution                                                               
plans of  the Public Employees'  Retirement System of  Alaska and                                                               
the teachers'  retirement system; and providing  for an effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
He  stated his  intention to  finish invited  testimony and  hear                                                               
public testimony.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:38:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MARGE  STONEKING, Alaska  Associate State  Director of  Advocacy,                                                               
American  Association  of Retired  Persons-Alaska  (AARP-Alaska),                                                               
Anchorage,   Alaska,  offered   invited   testimony   on  SB   88                                                               
paraphrasing from the following prepared statement:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Good  afternoon,  Chair Bjorkman  and  members  of the                                                                     
     committee. I'm Marge Stoneking with AARP Alaska.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Older  Alaskans deserve  to retire  with independence,                                                                     
     security, and  dignity. As you  may know,  AARP is the                                                                     
     largest     nonprofit,     nonpartisan    organization                                                                     
     representing  the interests  of  Americans age  50 and                                                                     
     older  and   their  families.   Financial  and  health                                                                     
     security are key components of our advocacy agenda.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     AARP strongly  believes that all  individuals have the                                                                     
     right  to be  self-reliant  and live  with  dignity in                                                                     
     retirement. We  further believe that  Americans of all                                                                     
     ages,  including those  in  Alaska, are  faced  with a                                                                     
     crisis  where the  goal of  achieving an  adequate and                                                                     
     secure retirement is becoming increasingly difficult.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     For  most  Americans, Social  Security  income  is the                                                                     
     foundation      of      financial      security     in                                                                     
     retirement. However, many of Alaska's public employees                                                                     
     do not  get to  participate in  Social Security.  As a                                                                     
     result, it is even more important that we provide them                                                                     
     a modest,  guaranteed pension  they cannot  outlive to                                                                     
     help  ensure   financial  security   throughout  their                                                                     
     retirement years.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     As  discussions   on  SB88   continue,  we   urge  our                                                                     
     policymakers to  keep in  mind the  purpose of defined                                                                     
     benefit   pension  plans,   which   include  providing                                                                     
     retirement  security  for  teachers,  police officers,                                                                     
     firefighters, and  other public employees,  as well as                                                                     
     attracting   and    retaining   the   most   qualified                                                                     
     individuals to serve Alaska's residents, in a way that                                                                     
     is most cost efficient for taxpayers.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     A defined benefit  pension plan would allow Alaska and                                                                     
     our employees to  achieve these goals. Like SB88 would                                                                     
     enable,  these   plans  typically   require  mandatory                                                                     
     participation  by   employees  and   shared  financing                                                                     
     through   contributions   from   both   employees  and                                                                     
     governments.  Assets  are  pooled  and  professionally                                                                     
     managed to  take advantage of lower  fees, and greater                                                                     
     portfolio  diversity,  and  economies  of  scale  help                                                                     
     manage  for  targeted  income  replacement  to  better                                                                     
     ensure   dignity   and   financial   independence   in                                                                     
     retirement;  and  mandatory  annuitization  provides a                                                                     
     benefit retirees cannot outlive.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:40:42 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. STONEKING continued:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     It  is not  surprising  that defined  benefit pensions                                                                     
     increase  retirement  security  and  therefore  reduce                                                                     
     reliance on social  safety nets. In fact, according to                                                                     
     a  study  by  the  National  Institute  on  Retirement                                                                     
     Security  (NIRS), older  households without  a pension                                                                     
     are nine times more likely to live in poverty. That is                                                                     
     up from six times greater in 2006.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Moving away  from defined  benefit pensions  has meant                                                                     
     that our impacted  essential public servants have been                                                                     
     on their own  to invest for their retirement. Numerous                                                                     
     studies over  a long  span of years  have detailed how                                                                     
     the  average  investor  is  unable  to accumulate  the                                                                     
     resources he  or she  needs for  retirement because of                                                                     
     inexperience.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     In fact, our public employees are currently facing the                                                                     
     risk of  poor investment  returns, the  risk that they                                                                     
     might  outlive   their  assets,  and   the  risk  that                                                                     
     inflation  will erode  the  value of  their  income in                                                                     
     retirement.  These  risks   are  a  reality  for  many                                                                     
     because, once again, most of Alaska's public employees                                                                     
     DO NOT receive Social Security.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Without a modest, lifetime retirement benefit, more of                                                                     
     Alaska's valued  public employees may  come to rely on                                                                     
     public assistance    an environment our state does not                                                                     
     want   to   enable   for   teachers,   public   safety                                                                     
     professionals,  and  other  public  servants.  Greater                                                                     
     reliance on  government subsidies  increases costs for                                                                     
     all,  and  chips away  at  the  ability  to  live with                                                                     
     dignity  and   self-sufficiency  in  one's  retirement                                                                     
     years.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska's  inability to  offer our  public  employees a                                                                     
     semblance of  retirement security -  the kind provided                                                                     
     by  a  defined  benefit pension  -  has  put  us  at a                                                                     
     significant disadvantage  as compared  to other states                                                                     
     in recruiting and  retaining a qualified workforce and                                                                     
     consequently hindered our  ability to provide reliable                                                                     
     public   services  which   is  also   impacting  older                                                                     
     Alaskans.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     I will leave you  with a data point from our 2022 AARP                                                                     
     Alaska Voter Survey:                                                                                                       
     61  percent of  50+  Alaskan voters  polled  said they                                                                     
     would be more likely  to back a candidate who supports                                                                     
     restoring   pension   benefits   for   public  safety,                                                                     
     teachers, and  other state  employees. AARP  Alaska is                                                                     
     happy to work with the Legislature to achieve that end                                                                     
     and we support SB88 to do so.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Thank you for your time today.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:44:07 PM                                                                                                                    
TOM KLAAMEYER, President, National Education Association-Alaska                                                                 
(NEA-Alaska), Anchorage, Alaska, offered invited testimony on SB
88 paraphrasing from the following prepared statement:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     For the  record, my name  is Tom Klaameyer. I'm  a high                                                                    
     school  social studies  teacher,  currently serving  as                                                                    
     the President of NEA-Alaska.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     First,  I would  like to  express sincere  gratitude to                                                                    
      Senator Giessel, her staff, and the legislation's co-                                                                     
     sponsors   for  introducing   this  bill.   Thank  you,                                                                    
     Chairman Bjorkman, and members  of the Senate Labor and                                                                    
     Commerce  Committee for  hearing  this legislation  and                                                                    
     for the opportunity to speak to you today.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     I am  here today  to offer my  support for  Senate Bill                                                                    
     88.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska  is facing  its worst  educator recruitment  and                                                                    
     retention crisis  in our state's history.  We have seen                                                                    
     this  impact students  and  families  across the  state                                                                    
     with vacant  positions, rolling  bus blackouts  and, in                                                                    
     some instances, because  of food nutritionist shortage,                                                                    
     rather  than  being  served a  standard,  healthy,  hot                                                                    
     lunch,  students  are   being  handed  "chicken  jerky,                                                                    
     Cheez-Its,  raisins, and  shelf-stable  milk." We  also                                                                    
     know  that  not all  students  have  access to  trained                                                                    
     librarians or even mental health counselors.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:45:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. KLAAMEYER continued:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     This  past Monday  in  the  House Education  Committee,                                                                    
     Education   Commissioner   designee,  Susan   McKenzie,                                                                    
     testified that this school year  Alaska had roughly 394                                                                    
     first-day  vacancies  for  teachers.  This  means  that                                                                    
     almost 400 classrooms began this  school year without a                                                                    
     teacher, more  than 2  ½ times  the only  155 first-day                                                                    
     vacancies in 2019. Those 400  missing adults don't even                                                                    
     include   the   many   more  unfilled   positions   for                                                                    
     paraprofessionals,  aides,   reading  specialists,  bus                                                                    
     drivers and more - who  are all vital in making schools                                                                    
     work. When  completing exit  surveys for  the Anchorage                                                                    
     School  District  in  2020  and   2021,  28%  and  30%,                                                                    
     respectively, of departing  teachers cited "retirement"                                                                    
     as one of the three  most significant reasons for their                                                                    
     departure  from ASD.  We can  see  this statewide,  Dr.                                                                    
     Parady referenced  the work  of the  Governor's Teacher                                                                    
     Retention   and  Recruitment   Task  Force   which  has                                                                    
     repeatedly  identified  retirement   reform  as  a  top                                                                    
     policy to  improve educator retention  and recruitment.                                                                    
     And more to  the point - (I know the  ISER data on this                                                                    
     has  been shared  with you  previously),  but it  bears                                                                    
     repeating that  in Alaska, we  know that high  rates of                                                                    
     teacher retention  are correlated with  greater student                                                                    
     achievement.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     If we want to move  the needle and improve outcomes for                                                                    
     our  students,   specifically  with   improved  reading                                                                    
     scores   -  we   absolutely  must   provide  additional                                                                    
     stability  in the  workforce.  Clearly,  it's not  just                                                                    
     teachers; its  administrators, superintendents  and all                                                                    
     of the  many other education professionals  critical to                                                                    
     the overall functioning of  schools. The worst employee                                                                    
     shortage in education is actually  one that hasn't been                                                                    
     formally studied as  much, but we hear  about every day                                                                    
     - and that  is the incredible turnover  rates among our                                                                    
     education support  professionals (or  ESPs, as  we call                                                                    
     them) - paraprofessionals,  clerical staff, custodians,                                                                    
     etc.  Our ESPs  are  critical to  the  operations of  a                                                                    
     high-functioning  learning  environment   but  are  the                                                                    
     lowest-paid  positions and  facing the  same retirement                                                                    
     insecurity.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska's  educators   have  been  advocating   for  the                                                                    
     restoration  of Defined  Benefits retirement  since TRS                                                                    
     III/PERS  IV was  created in2006.  We  have watched  as                                                                    
     some of  the best  and brightest educators  have looked                                                                    
     carefully at an equation where we have,                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     No Social Security                                                                                                         
     No option to earn a pension                                                                                                
     And  a defined  contribution  retirement  that, by  the                                                                    
     State  of  Alaska's  own projections,  gives  employees                                                                    
     only  a  dismal  30  percent chance  of  success.  With                                                                    
     success being  defined simply  as not  entirely running                                                                    
     out of money and facing destitution in your old age.                                                                       
     ?and that  equation simply does  not add up  to staying                                                                    
     in Alaska.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:48:23 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. KLAAMEYER continued:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska  is  the  only  state in  the  country  where  a                                                                    
     certificated  teacher,  school administrator  or  other                                                                    
     certificated  public school  employee can  earn NEITHER                                                                    
     Social   Security,  or   pension   from  their   public                                                                    
     employer.  You  can see  a  chart  detailing all  other                                                                    
     states'  retirement  options   for  teachers  from  the                                                                    
     National Institute of Retirement  Security in your bill                                                                    
     packet.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska educators support Senate Bill 88.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Without a change in the  retirement system, Alaska will                                                                    
     continue  to  hemorrhage  our best  and  our  brightest                                                                    
     educators,   and   our   students  will   continue   to                                                                    
     experience  a   revolving  door  of  adults   in  their                                                                    
     schools.  The  Alaska  economy   will  continue  to  be                                                                    
     stifled by  a public  education system that  is hobbled                                                                    
     by    an    unsustainable   turnover    of    teachers,                                                                    
     administrators,  and  education support  professionals.                                                                    
     Should SB 88  pass, on the other  hand, Alaska families                                                                    
     and students will benefit  from additional stability in                                                                    
     our education workforce and  beyond. The Alaska economy                                                                    
     will  benefit from  increased stability  and experience                                                                    
     in  our public  sector  workforce from  bus drivers  to                                                                    
     plow   truck  drivers,   from   career  and   technical                                                                    
     education    teachers   to    the   staff    processing                                                                    
     professional   licenses    and   resource   development                                                                    
     permits.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     In his  State of  the State address,  Governor Dunleavy                                                                    
     said the following:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     "We  need more  people solving  Alaska's problems,  and                                                                    
     the  world's.  We  need  more  families  achieving  the                                                                    
     American  dream. People  are not  a nebulous,  abstract                                                                    
     concept. People are what this  is all about. Everything                                                                    
     we do is  for the people, or it  should be. "Government                                                                    
     is about serving  people, and the people  are why we're                                                                    
     here:  the people  of Alaska  today, and  certainly the                                                                    
     people   of  Alaska   tomorrow.  That's   important  to                                                                    
     remember: there is no tomorrow  without more people. We                                                                    
     can never lose sight of that."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     NEA-Alaska members wholeheartedly  agree. For Alaska to                                                                    
     thrive,  public  employees  need   the  security  of  a                                                                    
     defined benefit pension  - we need to  pass Senate Bill                                                                    
     88.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Thank you for your time and attention.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:51:54 PM                                                                                                                    
LON GARRISON, Executive Director, Association of Alaska School                                                                  
Boards (AASB), Juneau, Alaska, testified in support of SB 88                                                                    
paraphrasing from the following prepared statement:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Chair  Bjorkman  and  members of  the  Senate  Labor  &                                                                    
     Commerce Committee.  My name  is Lon Garrison.  I serve                                                                    
     as the Executive Director of  the Association of Alaska                                                                    
     School   Boards.  We   are   a  nonprofit   association                                                                    
     established in  1954, serving 52 of  Alaska's 54 school                                                                    
     districts.  Thank you  for  this  opportunity to  speak                                                                    
     today in  support of  SB88 RETIREMENT  SYSTEMS; DEFINED                                                                  
     BENEFIT OPTION.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     AASB     Board   of   Directors   has   adopted   three                                                                    
     legislative priorities for this year. They are:                                                                            
        • sufficient, sustainable, predictable education                                                                        
           funding                                                                                                              
        • retention    and    recruitment    of    teachers,                                                                    
           administrators, and staff                                                                                            
        •  student wellness and safety                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     These  priorities and  the  supporting resolutions  and                                                                    
     beliefs  of the  AASB membership  are appended  to this                                                                    
     testimony.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     AASB has long  supported a return to  a defined benefit                                                                    
     program  as a  preferred  option  for staff  retirement                                                                    
     investments. In  2005, the AASB membership  adopted the                                                                    
     following  resolution  and  has maintained  its  strong                                                                    
     support for reconstituting a defined benefit option.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     4.7 RELATING TO DEFINED BENEFIT RETIREMENT                                                                               
          AASB  supports  the  establishment  of  a  defined                                                                    
          benefit  retirement  program   that  improves  the                                                                    
          hiring  and  retention  of  highly  qualified  and                                                                    
          effective staff.                                                                                                      
          Adopted 2005                                                                                                          
          Amended 2008, 2010, 2013, 2016, 2019                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     School  districts  face   an  unprecedented  crisis  of                                                                    
     retaining    and   recruiting    qualified,   effective                                                                    
     teachers,  administrators   and  support   staff.  This                                                                    
     personnel  crisis  seriously  hinders  our  ability  to                                                                    
     provide Alaska  students with  a quality  education. It                                                                    
     makes  it  extremely  difficult for  school  boards  to                                                                    
     fulfill  the state's  constitutional responsibility  to                                                                    
     provide  that   quality  public  education   for  every                                                                    
     student every day.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     As you have heard many  times before, one of the single                                                                    
     most  important  determinants   of  whether  a  student                                                                    
     succeeds in school is the  quality of the educator that                                                                    
     works  with  the   student.  While  effective  learning                                                                    
     requires  a  high-quality  teacher, the  entire  school                                                                    
     system must  support that crucial opportunity  for that                                                                    
     teacher  and  student  to be  together.  This  means  a                                                                    
     multitude  of  other  staff  is   needed  to  make  the                                                                    
     learning experience the best that it can be.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:54:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GARRISON continued:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     My  colleagues   have  previously  provided   you  with                                                                    
     information  and statistics  about Alaska's  retention,                                                                    
     recruitment, and turnover  crisis with education staff.                                                                    
     That information portrays  school districts' challenges                                                                    
     in  having   the  staff  necessary  to   fulfill  their                                                                    
     missions.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Out of  curiosity, Yesterday, March  16, I  checked the                                                                    
     Alaska Teacher  Placement website, and it  revealed the                                                                    
     following   startling  numbers.   A   total  of   1,481                                                                    
     positions  are   currently  open,  of  which   360  are                                                                    
     teachers,  81  are   administrators,  233  are  student                                                                    
     support services,  and the remaining 807  are a variety                                                                    
     of  positions  needed  to  operate  a  school  district                                                                    
     effectively.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     This year,  school boards across  the state  are facing                                                                    
     some of the most  significant challenges they have ever                                                                    
     faced  in deciding  how to  allocate rapidly  dwindling                                                                    
     resources in  order to provide a  public education. The                                                                    
     scarcity of  applicants coupled  with lack  of adequate                                                                    
     education  funding  results in  districts  experiencing                                                                    
     staff  shortages that  further  exacerbate the  crisis.                                                                    
     The lack of a defined  benefit retirement option is one                                                                    
     more  strike  against  Alaska's ability  to  retain  or                                                                    
     recruit the public service employees we need.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:55:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GARRISON continued:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     SB  88  is  a  common-sense proposal  to  return  to  a                                                                    
     retirement   system   that   incentivizes   educational                                                                    
     professionals  to invest  dedicating  their careers  to                                                                    
     service in  Alaska. SB 88 incorporates  lessons learned                                                                    
     from the  past, shares the risk  with participants, and                                                                    
     establishes    retirement    age   and    qualification                                                                    
     parameters that  are more appropriate for  today. SB 88                                                                    
     maintains  the  current  contribution rates  by  school                                                                    
     districts for PERS  and TRS, which is a  relief. I want                                                                    
     to  acknowledge  that  districts,  municipalities,  and                                                                    
     boroughs  still  struggle   with  these  contributions,                                                                    
     given the ever-increasing rise  in healthcare costs and                                                                    
     liability insurance that have  driven dramatic rises in                                                                    
     the overall cost of employees.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Last week,  during a  meeting AASB  facilitated between                                                                    
     school  board   members  and  their   legislators,  the                                                                    
     question  was   asked  by  a  senator,   "what  is  the                                                                    
     difference  between spending  and investment?"  A board                                                                    
     member  responded, "Investment  implies an  expectation                                                                    
     of  a beneficial  dividend or  outcome.  Spending is  a                                                                    
     response to an expense."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Investment in the long-term  viability and retention of                                                                    
     quality staff  is not without  risk. However, SB  88 is                                                                    
     an  effort  that  works  to   manage  that  risk  while                                                                    
     providing a  dividend that ensures that  we can recruit                                                                    
     and  retain  staff,  with the  ultimate  benefit  being                                                                    
     better   student  outcomes.   AASB  urges   the  Alaska                                                                    
     legislature  to be  bold  and  responsive. Make  Alaska                                                                    
     competitive   in    the   public    sector   employment                                                                    
     marketplace;  this is  an investment  in our  students,                                                                    
     communities, and state.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Thank you for the opportunity to testify today.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:58:29 PM                                                                                                                    
DARRELL  EVANS,  President,  Anchorage  Police  Department  (APD)                                                               
Employees   Association,  Anchorage,   Alaska,  offered   invited                                                               
testimony  on SB  88. He  described  his professional  experience                                                               
which  included  28  years  as  an  Alaskan  police  officer  and                                                               
involvement at the Sitka trooper  and Anchorage police academies.                                                               
He stated that  APD currently has 34 sworn  officer vacancies. At                                                               
February's end, 10 sworn officers  left the department, four were                                                               
retirees and six left for  other reasons. The current APD academy                                                               
began with 15 recruits and is  now down to 12. The department can                                                               
run two academies per year with  28 recruits, but it's been years                                                               
since an academy  was larger than 20. He calculated  that APD was                                                               
on  track  to  lose 60  officers  by  the  end  of 2023.  If  the                                                               
department is  fortunate enough  to have  15-20 recruits  in each                                                               
academy, APD will be down 20 officers at the current rate.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He highlighted  that agencies in  the Lower  48 are aware  of the                                                               
high-quality  training in  Alaska's  academies and  are quick  to                                                               
recruit  Alaska's young  officers.  One enticement  is a  defined                                                               
benefits plan.  He continued  that after  one year,  new officers                                                               
are  eligible to  receive  a basic  certificate  from the  Alaska                                                               
Police Standards  Council, rendering them highly  marketable; the                                                               
certificate is  their ticket to  leave Alaska. He  stated support                                                               
for SB 88,  emphasizing that law enforcement was  in a recruiting                                                               
and retention crisis.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:06:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP  asked what it costs  for a recruit to  attend the                                                               
academy.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:06:27 PM                                                                                                                    
DARRELL  EVANS answered  that training  and  equipment items  are                                                               
issued to new  recruits, including a mandatory  vehicle. Some are                                                               
disposable  and some  are returned  for  reissue. Training  costs                                                               
approximately $150,000, including the recruit's salary.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:07:18 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP  said he heard  anecdotally that  the high-quality                                                               
training at  the Sitka trooper  academy is second to  none. After                                                               
six years on  the job, some officers are inclined  to relocate to                                                               
other departments that have a  defined benefit program, and other                                                               
states are glad to recruit them  because they could enter the new                                                               
force at a detective level given the quality of their training.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:07:59 PM                                                                                                                    
DARRELL EVANS responded  that he had heard that.  He has traveled                                                               
and trained  in other states  and APD and Sitka  trooper training                                                               
was second to none.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:08:44 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  recalled academy  graduate numbers  being higher;                                                               
commented that he  was disturbed by the decline;  and asked about                                                               
the impact  on municipal budget  in terms of overtime  and morale                                                               
of the force in terms of burnout amongst officers.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:09:38 PM                                                                                                                    
DARRELL  EVANS replied  that when  he  was a  night shift  patrol                                                               
supervisor, there  was rarely a shift  that did not have  to back                                                               
filled with on-call officers who were  on leave, ill, or still in                                                               
training.  The main  complaint is  that officers  cannot get  the                                                               
leave  they have  requested and  earned. As  a leave  sergeant he                                                               
denied more leave  than he approved. Officers were  once happy to                                                               
earn overtime, but  now they decline to work  extra hours because                                                               
they cannot even get days off.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:12:14 PM                                                                                                                    
KEITH BRAINARD, Research Director,  National Association of State                                                               
Retirement   Administrators  (NASRA),   Austin,  Texas,   offered                                                               
invited testimony  on SB 88. He  posited that it was  possible to                                                               
design  a  retirement  plan  that   meets  the  needs  of  public                                                               
employees, employers,  and taxpayers.  A retirement  plan doesn't                                                               
have to create unfunded liabilities  and costs can be controlled.                                                               
SB 88  accomplishes these  objectives. NASRA  supports retirement                                                               
plans with  features such as  cost sharing between  employees and                                                               
employers,  assets that  are pooled  and professionally  managed,                                                               
targeted  income replacement  with a  certain percentage  of pre-                                                               
retirement wages at  a specified age or years  of public service,                                                               
an  orderly  progression  of personnel  for  employers,  lifetime                                                               
benefit    payouts    the    employee   cannot    outlive,    and                                                               
survivor/disability benefits.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BRAINARD  stated  that  these core  features  are  known  to                                                               
promote employees'  retirement security,  to reduce  expenses and                                                               
to  enhance  the  ability  of employers  to  attract  and  retain                                                               
employees.   In  2005   when   Alaska  switched   to  a   defined                                                               
contribution plan,  risk sharing plans  were far less  common and                                                               
less  developed than  they are  today.  Over the  last 18  years,                                                               
there has been a significant  evolution in public retirement plan                                                               
design.  Risk  sharing  plan  designs  are  more  common,  better                                                               
developed, and  better understood than  they were in  2005. NASRA                                                               
published a paper in 2019  describing many examples of innovative                                                               
risk sharing retirement plan designs  in use among the states and                                                               
local   governments.  Such   designs  meet   the  needs   of  all                                                               
stakeholders  while  also   protecting  employers  and  taxpayers                                                               
against  unsustainable  increases  and unfunded  liabilities  and                                                               
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:16:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BRAINARD provided three specific  examples from South Dakota,                                                               
Colorado, and Texas:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The  South  Dakota  retirement  system  has  offered  all  public                                                               
employees a  defined benefit plan  with fixed  contribution rates                                                               
for years. Since  2002, that contribution rate  for employees and                                                               
employers  alike has  been 6  percent, and  8 percent  for public                                                               
safety  personnel.  The South  Dakota  retirement  system has  no                                                               
unfunded  liability, which  was accomplished  by making  benefits                                                               
variable.  When the  plans  actuarial  experience falls  short of                                                               
expectations,  benefits are  adjusted so  the plan  remains fully                                                               
funded and the fixed contribution rate remains adequate.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
In  2018,  Colorado  established  risk sharing  features  in  its                                                               
retirement plan  for teachers  and employees  of state  and local                                                               
government.  This  plan  allows   for  incremental  increases  in                                                               
employee contribution  rates up  to 2 percent  in total,  like SB
88,  and   adjustments  in   the  cost-of-living   adjustment  if                                                               
specified actuarial and funding targets are not met.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Finally,  in Houston,  Texas a  2017 plan  design applied  to the                                                               
city's  retirement plans  for firefighters,  police officers  and                                                               
general employees. The  central feature of the Houston  plan is a                                                               
contribution corridor  arrangement that  restricts the  change in                                                               
the  employer contribution  rate  to  5 percent  of  pay. If  the                                                               
required cost of the plan  strays from the target rate, specified                                                               
changes take effect to bring  the contribution rate back into the                                                               
5 percent  corridor. All  three plans  have proven  effective for                                                               
all parties.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BRAINARD  stated that  SB 88 proposes  a trigger  to increase                                                               
employee contribution  rates should  the plan funding  level fall                                                               
below 70 percent.  It would prohibit paying a COLA  if the plans                                                                
funded  level is  below 90  percent. These  provisions will  help                                                               
protect against  higher liabilities and costs  and are consistent                                                               
with  other  recent retirement  plans.  They  also contain  risk-                                                               
sharing  mechanisms  designed  to  shield  public  employers  and                                                               
taxpayers  from  the  effects of  negative  actuarial  experience                                                               
while  still  promoting  the  ability   of  employers  to  retain                                                               
qualified workers  and of  employees to  retire with  an adequate                                                               
income. SB  88 would  return Alaska to  the mainstream  of public                                                               
retirement policy  and strengthen the ability  of schools, police                                                               
and fire departments,  and other public employers  to attract and                                                               
retain qualified and essential public employees.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:19:14 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR noted  that  the current  plan  does not  include                                                               
health  benefits but  instead keeps  the health  savings accounts                                                               
that exist  in Alaska's current  Tier IV  system. He asked  if it                                                               
was  mainstream  in  other  states  to  provide  lifetime  health                                                               
benefits  or  if  it  was  more common  to  have  health  savings                                                               
accounts.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BRAINARD  answered  that   retirement  benefits  across  the                                                               
country  run a  wide  range and  are  difficult to  characterize.                                                               
There has  been a movement  toward defined contribution  plans in                                                               
which the  employer's obligation  is focused on  the contribution                                                               
rather than open-ended healthcare benefits.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DUNBAR asked him to specify why.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BRAINARD  said that healthcare  was beyond his  expertise but                                                               
having an  open-ended benefit structure could  create uncertainty                                                               
and increase costs.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DUNBAR asked  if it was fair  to say that SB  88 does not                                                               
do this, but instead reduces risk to the state.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
KEITH BRAINARD replied yes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:21:37 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BJORKMAN asked  what type of training he  had to evaluate                                                               
these kinds of plans.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BRAINARD answered  that he  worked  five years  as a  fiscal                                                               
analyst for  two legislators; seven  years as an analyst  for the                                                               
Arizona  state retirement  system;  20 years  at NASRA  reviewing                                                               
annual financial  reports and actuarial valuations  and compiling                                                               
the  data for  policymakers and  NASRA members;  10 years  on the                                                               
Texas  pension review  board,  eight as  chair  of the  actuarial                                                               
committee. He recapped  that he had spent 30 years  of his career                                                               
analyzing public  pension and public retirement  issues including                                                               
financial data and actuarial data.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:22:47 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BJORKMAN asked  what his batting average  is to correctly                                                               
predict successful retirement elements.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. BRAINARD stated that he bats well over 500.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BJORKMAN  said if a  batter hits  300, he's Hall  of Fame                                                               
material, so  500 is very good.  He asked Mr. Brainard  to review                                                               
why  he believes  SB 88,  as  presented, would  not increase  the                                                               
unfunded liability but would reduce costs.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BRAINARD answered that he could  not confirm that SB 88 would                                                               
not  increase liabilities.  But increasing  employee contribution                                                               
rates and paying  no cost-of-living adjustment if  the plan falls                                                               
below a  certain funding  threshold, the  chances of  a sustained                                                               
increase  in unfunded  liabilities, especially  allowing unfunded                                                               
liabilities to get out of hand, is significantly diminished.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BJORKMAN asked how a plan like this would reduce costs.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:24:46 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BRAINARD replied  that the NERS report reveals  a better bang                                                               
for the  buck by pooling  assets for all plan  participants. That                                                               
allows the  plan to invest for  the entire group for  the average                                                               
life expectancy,  rather than requiring  individuals to  save and                                                               
invest on  their own. That  lowers the  cost of the  plan because                                                               
contributions are  only for  the average  life expectancy  of the                                                               
plan participants.  In addition, pooling assets  reduces the cost                                                               
and  generates  a  higher   investment  return  than  individuals                                                               
generate on  their own. This plan  can achieve the same  level of                                                               
benefit at half the cost.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BISHOP  asked  whether Texas  public  employees  have  a                                                               
defined benefit plan.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
KEITH BRAINARD answered yes.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BISHOP  asked  what  the   benefit  calculation  is  for                                                               
teachers in Texas.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
KEITH  BRAINARD  answered  that 2.3  percent  is  the  retirement                                                               
multiplier. Most  of the  teachers do  not participate  in Social                                                               
Security.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BISHOP  invited him to  follow up on other  public sector                                                               
defined benefit plans.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BRAINARD said  the Texas  state  employee retirement  system                                                               
switched  from  a traditional  defined  benefit  plan to  a  cash                                                               
balance  plan  last  September.  The  major  difference  is  that                                                               
benefits are affected by the investment performance of the fund.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:27:55 PM                                                                                                                    
JOHN  DUFFY, representing  self, Mat-Su  Valley, Alaska,  offered                                                               
invited  testimony  in support  of  SB  88.  He stated  that  his                                                               
testimony was  based on  his prior experience  as the  manager of                                                               
the  Mat-Su  Borough.   He  stated  support  for   SB  88,  which                                                               
reestablishes  a  defined  benefit   system  for  civil  servants                                                               
working in Alaska.  The current system is not  competitive in the                                                               
labor  market with  other states.  Workers have  better financial                                                               
and  retirement  opportunities  elsewhere.  He  experienced  this                                                               
firsthand when the borough changed  its defined benefit system to                                                               
a defined  contribution system.  They immediately  had difficulty                                                               
attracting  qualified  applicants.  He distinctly  remembers  how                                                               
difficult  it was  to recruit  a qualified  borough assessor  and                                                               
keep  the  individual in  the  position.  The new  assessor  left                                                               
within two years because the  salary was not sufficient for long-                                                               
term retirement. The Mat-Su Borough  invests significant time and                                                               
effort to train employees only to  lose them to places that offer                                                               
retirement packages, primarily defined benefit plans.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:30:41 PM                                                                                                                    
JOHN DUFFY stated  that Alaska has become a  training academy for                                                               
the Lower 48  and Hawaii. The existing  retirement system creates                                                               
a  financial  incentive  to  leave   Alaska.  SB  88  provides  a                                                               
reasonable  defined   benefit  system  that  is   affordable  and                                                               
diversifies  risk among  employers, employees,  and retirees.  It                                                               
will  go a  long way  towards  making Alaska  competitive in  the                                                               
public  sector   market  and  help  resolve   the  challenges  of                                                               
recruiting  and retaining  competent professional  public service                                                               
workers. He reiterated support for SB 88.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:33:03 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  had two questions.  First, he asked Mr.  Duffy to                                                               
talk  about the  lengths the  borough  went to  find and  recruit                                                               
employees. Second, he asked him to  speak about the effect on the                                                               
private sector when local governments  aren't able to recruit and                                                               
retain qualified employees.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:33:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. DUFFY  answered that without sufficient  qualified employees,                                                               
it takes  the borough  much longer to  provide services  that the                                                               
private sector expects such as  approving a subdivision plat or a                                                               
driveway  permit, and  it contributes  to  longer training  times                                                               
when  new employees  are hired.  He described  it as  a cascading                                                               
effect,  resulting  in  delays   in  providing  timely  services.                                                               
Additionally, the loss of  experienced workers negatively affects                                                               
timely emergency response and recovery.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:35:39 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR reiterated his query  regarding efforts to recruit                                                               
employees.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:35:49 PM                                                                                                                    
JOHN  DUFFY  answered   that  after  the  change   to  a  defined                                                               
contribution program,  the pool of applicants  became drastically                                                               
smaller and  most were  from the Lower  48. This  caused concerns                                                               
about whether these  individuals would stay in  Alaska long term.                                                               
He  said recruiting  took longer  and  the borough  had to  offer                                                               
higher salaries  because of the contribution  plan. Once trained,                                                               
new employees  often would leave, wasting  the initial investment                                                               
in their employment.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:38:48 PM                                                                                                                    
DOMINIC  LOZANO,  President,  Alaska Professional  Fire  Fighters                                                               
Association   (AKPFFA),   Fairbanks,  Alaska,   offered   invited                                                               
testimony on  SB 88. He  explained that  he has been  a battalion                                                               
chief for  the Fairbanks Fire  Department for the last  23 years.                                                               
He stated  that in 2004  he testified before a  similar committee                                                               
on Senate Bill 141, regarding  changing to a defined contribution                                                               
system. He was a new firefighter  at the time and didn't know the                                                               
difference  between a  pension  system and  a  401(k), but  after                                                               
doing some research  he saw the alarming inadequacy  of a defined                                                               
contribution system  and what this  change would do to  the state                                                               
in the  future. Alaska's pension  plans experienced  large losses                                                               
in the early  2000s as a result of poor  actuarial advice without                                                               
fail safes, reduced contributions to  the plan during high market                                                               
performance years,  and then  some down  market years.  He opined                                                               
that the  combination of those  three factors resulted in  a knee                                                               
jerk reaction into the defined  contribution plan. He said people                                                               
were told  that Alaska would lead  the country into a  new era of                                                               
defined  contribution, but  no states  have followed  Alaska into                                                               
the defined contribution world.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:41:15 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LOZANO  noted that in  the same  time period, the  state made                                                               
good  decisions by  creating  backups  to actuarial  assumptions,                                                               
bringing in  multiple experts  to evaluate  the work,  and making                                                               
mandatory contributions and  large deposits into the  fund to pay                                                               
off past  service costs. What the  State of Alaska did  not do is                                                               
to follow  the performance of  the defined contribution  plan for                                                               
its employees. Employee  groups have been sounding  the alarm for                                                               
more than ten years as they  have seen the effects of changing to                                                               
the defined contribution system.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LOZANO  stated  that the  Alaska  Professional  Firefighters                                                               
Association  has been  working with  legislators in  a number  of                                                               
different  legislatures to  fix  this  troubling recruitment  and                                                               
retention  crisis and  give  public  safety employees  retirement                                                               
security. He asserted that SB  88 is a reasonable defined benefit                                                               
plan  that   shares  risks,  is  financially   conservative,  and                                                               
incorporates  best practices  from pension  plans throughout  the                                                               
nation.  Over the  years, firefighters  have been  given bonuses,                                                               
wage increases,  and employee satisfaction surveys,  yet alarming                                                               
vacancy rates  amongst all state departments  continue. Even more                                                               
worrisome is the unprecedented number  of employees who have left                                                               
public safety since  2006. People who have left  Alaska wanted to                                                               
stay and  raise their families  here, but they  left nonetheless.                                                               
He  emphasized  the importance  of  offering  better schools  and                                                               
safer communities,  both of which come  with retirement security.                                                               
He reiterated support for SB 88.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:45:58 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:49:22 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN   reconvened  the   meeting  and   opened  public                                                               
testimony  on  SB  88,  noting   that  written  comments  can  be                                                               
submitted at slac@akleg.gov.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:50:09 PM                                                                                                                    
CHRISTOPHER WRIGHT, representing self, Anchorage, Alaska,                                                                       
testified in opposition to SB 88, paraphrasing from the                                                                         
following prepared statement:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Mr.  Chair and  members of  the Committee,  my name  is                                                                    
     Christopher  Wright. I  am from  Anchorage,  AK and  am                                                                    
     representing  myself. The  views  I  am expressing  are                                                                    
     mine and not  the Department I work for  nor any Boards                                                                    
     I serve on.  I am a Law Enforcement Officer  and thus a                                                                    
     direct   stakeholder    in   the    proposed   Pension.                                                                    
     I am asking you to reject  a return to a pension system                                                                    
     that will  not benefit  individual police  officers. It                                                                    
     is  also not  supported by  many public  safety workers                                                                    
     and  stakeholders for  which  it  is designed.  Overall                                                                    
     pensions  are an  outdated and  poor  way of  providing                                                                    
     retirement         benefits         to         workers.                                                                    
     I  bring a  unique  perspective,  work experience,  and                                                                    
     expertise on this  topic. I have been  a Police Officer                                                                    
     for  5   years.  Prior  to,  I   worked  in  Investment                                                                    
     Management for  20 years. I "retired  from Wall Street"                                                                    
     to become a  Police Officer. I consider it  an honor to                                                                    
     serve      the      community      I      live      in.                                                                    
     Many of the stated goals  of the Pension Plan will hurt                                                                    
     Officers. It will take  away flexibility, career growth                                                                    
     opportunities, and life choices.  The entire concept of                                                                    
     forcing police officers to stay  in a job handcuffed is                                                                    
     an abject outcome and should  rightfully be rejected by                                                                    
     any                                          Community.                                                                    
     My previous career was extremely  rewarding as I saw my                                                                    
     Firm's   clients  reap   the  rewards   of  long   term                                                                    
     investing. Much of these rewards  were directly tied to                                                                    
     the  Nationwide transition  away from  Defined Benefits                                                                    
     and to Defined contribution  401(k) systems. The wealth                                                                    
     built  by  millions  of  average  income  Americans  is                                                                    
     directly  tied to  this transition.  It  is foolish  to                                                                    
     allow   Market  Risk   to   force   investors  into   a                                                                    
     "guaranteed" investment. The cost  of that guarantee is                                                                    
     enormous!                                                                                                                  
     The  State  of  Alaska, taxpayers,  and  Public  Safety                                                                    
     Workers  deserve  a   cost  specific  alternative  that                                                                    
     allows for individual responsibility and rewards.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:52:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR asked if he was aware that SB 88 does not require                                                                
participants in defined contribution plans to join a defined                                                                    
benefit  plan and  whether  that changes  his  opinion about  his                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:52:53 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. WRIGHT answered  that he won't be forced, adding  that it's a                                                               
loss of  potential opportunity for  better retirement  for people                                                               
who  are  here now.  He  said  he  believes  the bill  will  hurt                                                               
retention  and recruiting  because  people will  have  to make  a                                                               
lifetime commitment to work in Alaska.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:53:27 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BISHOP asked  if he  thought of  himself as  a competent                                                               
money manager.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. WRIGHT  answered that  he can  manage his  own money  but not                                                               
other people money.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BISHOP asked  how many  of  his colleagues  are able  to                                                               
manage their own money.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:53:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  WRIGHT answered  that  he believes  his  colleagues all  can                                                               
manage their money. He continued,  "I believe that 401(k) systems                                                               
are  built  for average  income  Americans  for decades  and  the                                                               
public sector has been left behind that transition."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:53:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BISHOP  asked  him  to  speak  to  the  individual  401k                                                               
investors who were  left holding the bag in 2008  when the market                                                               
bottomed out. Those investors did not have Taft Hartley plans.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. WRIGHT answered that markets will bounce back.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:55:16 PM                                                                                                                    
SARAH   CANNARD,   member,   Alaska   Professional   Firefighters                                                               
Association (AKPFFA); IAFF Local  4303, Juneau, Alaska, testified                                                               
in support of  SB 88. She provided a perspective  on working in a                                                               
department  that is  currently  not adequately  staffed and  what                                                               
that means for Juneau taxpayers.  She explained that two days ago                                                               
the   fire  department   lost   yet   another  highly   qualified                                                               
firefighter and his wife who  is in healthcare; they relocated to                                                               
Washington,  because  of  the   strong  support  that  department                                                               
provides to firefighters. The Juneau  fire department attempts to                                                               
have  three ambulances  on the  road  at all  times, but  without                                                               
adequate  staffing  it's  necessary  to take  a  vehicle  out  of                                                               
service. It is heartbreaking when  both ambulances are in service                                                               
and a call comes in for  cardiac arrest and neither ambulance can                                                               
help that person right away.  Previously, the department was able                                                               
to rely  on the  volunteer corps,  but over  the last  decade the                                                               
volunteer corps had  also declined. She highlighted  that being a                                                               
firefighter  comes  with  significant  risks not  only  to  one's                                                               
health  but also  post-retirement. She  said Juneau  firefighters                                                               
and  EMTs  have seen  the  reality  for  those  who do  not  have                                                               
adequate   resources  after   retirement.  This   reality  forces                                                               
firefighters to confront stark choices,  knowing where they could                                                               
end up without the means to manage a 401(k).                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:58:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR  inquired  whether   the  family  that  moved  to                                                               
Washington  state  was an  isolated  incident  or common  because                                                               
people are looking for benefit packages.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SARAH CANNARD answered  that the fire rescue  sector is saturated                                                               
with  openings and  new recruits  are shocked  upon learning  how                                                               
retirement is set up in Alaska.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:59:42 PM                                                                                                                    
CONOR  KINCAID, member,  Juneau  Career  Firefighters IAFF  Local                                                               
4303, Juneau, Alaska,  testified in support of SB 88.  He and his                                                               
spouse are both  employees of Capital City Fire  Rescue. They are                                                               
Alaska-raised and love living here,  but they're actively seeking                                                               
jobs  elsewhere that  offer defined  benefit retirement  systems.                                                               
Learning from  previous testimonies about the  staffing retention                                                               
crisis of  the school system  raises concern about having  a good                                                               
school to send  one's children to. Alaska wages have  not kept up                                                               
with other states, so working for  less with less security is not                                                               
appealing.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:01:19 PM                                                                                                                    
NICK CLARK,  President, Fairbanks Firefighters Union  Local 1324,                                                               
Fairbanks,  Alaska, testified  in support  of SB  88. He  relayed                                                               
that  both he  and his  spouse  are participants  in the  defined                                                               
contribution plan and would prefer  a defined benefit program. In                                                               
2022, the department  hired 15 people, which makes up  a third of                                                               
the  whole department.  Seventy  percent of  the department  have                                                               
less  than  five  years  of  experience; this  is  known  as  the                                                               
 hollowing out  of  knowledge and experience. There  are only six                                                               
legacy  chair members  left with  the Fairbanks  Fire Department.                                                               
Department.  The  same  year,   the  university  fire  department                                                               
struggled to fill two captain  vacancies. In 2022, members worked                                                               
15,896 overtime hours  and 9,474 were forced  hours. That's 1,057                                                               
24-hour shifts  split between  42 firefighters.  Each firefighter                                                               
worked an extra 2.5 months of  shift time in 2020, nearly half of                                                               
which  was  not voluntary.  Members  are  leaving the  state  and                                                               
starting families  in the  Lower 48. Members  who leave  say they                                                               
feel  forced to  leave  to ensure  their  financial security.  He                                                               
posited that  having a secure  retirement will  keep firefighters                                                               
in  Alaska,   whereas  continuing  with  an   inadequate  defined                                                               
contribution plan will force them to leave.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:03:53 PM                                                                                                                    
COREY  AIST, President,  Anchorage  Education Association  (AEA),                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska, testified in support  of SB 88. He stated that                                                               
SB  88   responds  to  the  critical   educator  recruitment  and                                                               
retention crisis  plaguing the Anchorage School  District and the                                                               
State  of   Alaska.  Anchorage  used   to  be  one  of   the  top                                                               
destinations for  educators in the country.  The district offered                                                               
competitive compensation  and a  benefits package  that attracted                                                               
top notch educators, but this  is no longer true. Currently there                                                               
are  538 open  positions in  the Anchorage  School District.  The                                                               
university is only  graduating about 150 teachers a  year, so the                                                               
state is only  producing a small margin of what  is needed in the                                                               
Anchorage  School   District,  let  alone  the   statewide  need.                                                               
Returning  to a  state defined  benefit program  would allow  the                                                               
state  to  become  more competitive  during  a  national  teacher                                                               
shortage. Already this  year, 256 educators have  given notice of                                                               
resignation. He said the district is in a staffing crisis.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:06:30 PM                                                                                                                    
NICK  STEELE, representing  self,  Kodiak,  Alaska, testified  in                                                               
support of  SB 88. He stated  that he and his  wife are teachers,                                                               
they have a new baby, and they  are concerned about the lack of a                                                               
defined  benefit   retirement  program  for   Alaskan  educators,                                                               
especially since this is the  only state with no Social Security.                                                               
Currently, teachers  need to work for  about 30 years to  get the                                                               
most out of healthcare. He opined  that the best part about SB 88                                                               
is the  option to  either take  the defined  benefit or  keep the                                                               
401(k)  account. He  related that  a fellow  educator who  has 15                                                               
years of  service has $150,000  in her retirement  account, which                                                               
is  less  than  three  years  of salary  to  support  herself  in                                                               
retirement.  He  opined   that  SB  88  will   make  Alaska  more                                                               
competitive.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:09:22 PM                                                                                                                    
NATHAN    ERFURTH,   President,    Kenai   Peninsula    Education                                                               
Association, Kenai,  Alaska, testified  in support  of SB  88. He                                                               
expressed  support for  SB 88  as an  educator and  a father.  He                                                               
mentioned having  emotional conversations with educators  who are                                                               
leaving  Alaska on  a regular  basis in  the face  of no  defined                                                               
benefit.  Educators  are   willing  to  endure  a   lot  for  the                                                               
profession  and  the  students,  but  ultimately,  they  have  an                                                               
obligation to  provide security to  their families.  Students and                                                               
the economy  suffer from the  turnover; stability  and investment                                                               
in  education  results  in increased  outcomes,  better  schools,                                                               
lower crime rates, and a  more productive society. Teacher hiring                                                               
fairs used  to have  hundreds of thousands  of attendees  and now                                                               
candidates  are  sometimes  outnumbered  by  districts  that  are                                                               
desperate to hire. He urged the  committee to vote in favor of SB
88.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:11:28 PM                                                                                                                    
HEATHER  BAKER, representing  self,  Soldotna, Alaska,  expressed                                                               
support for SB  88 as an educator and a  parent. She recapped her                                                               
accomplishments and recognition as  an excellent teacher and that                                                               
the  state might  lose her  if better  retirement options  aren't                                                               
offered timely. She  tells her children to  plan ahead, realizing                                                               
that she  isn't taking her own  advice. She received an  offer in                                                               
Washington  where she  would  have a  bigger  paycheck, a  hiring                                                               
bonus, and  a defined  benefit retirement for  less time  than if                                                               
she worked  in Alaska. She said  the simple truth is  that Alaska                                                               
isn't  doing enough  to retain  quality educators.  Vacancies and                                                               
turnover is  foreboding for the  future of Alaska; she  sees that                                                               
the quality of her children's education is diminishing.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:14:16 PM                                                                                                                    
SHANE  WESTCOTT,   member,  Alaska  Professional   Fire  Fighters                                                               
Association; Local 1264, Anchorage,  Alaska, testified in support                                                               
of SB 88. He said SB 88  is a reasonable shared risk plan between                                                               
the employee and the state.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:15:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN announced  that  he will  leave public  testimony                                                               
open on SB 88 and hold  the bill in committee. He reiterated that                                                               
public testimony can be submitted to slac@akleg.gov.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:16:23 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair Bjorkman  adjourned the Senate Labor  and Commerce Standing                                                               
Committee meeting at 3:16 p.m.                                                                                                  

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 88 Public Testimony-Letters of Support-received as of 03.11-15.23.pdf SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research ARMB vs Mercer Lawsuit 03.16.23.pdf SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Supporting Documents-News Article_NY Times_Mercer's Little Alaska Problem.pdf SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research DOA Funded Ratio Combined PERS TRS 03.16.23.pdf SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Supporting Documents-ACSA Presentation to SL&C-Work Force Challenges 03.15.23.pdf SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Suporting Documents-Edward Siedle - bio and articles.pdf SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Supporting Documents-ACSA 2023 Joint Positions Statement.pdf SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Supporting Documents-ACSA Presentation to SL&C-Work Force Challenges 03.15.23.pdf SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 ver B.PDF SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Sponsor Statement ver B.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Sectional Analysis ver B 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Presentation to SL&C 3.13.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Letters of Opposition - Received as of 3.7.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Letters of Support - Received as of 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Repealed Sections ver B.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research AK Educator Turnover Infographic 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research 2017 ISER cost of teacher turnover 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research APFO Recruitment and Retention Report 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research DB v DC comparison DOA presentation to Sen Fin 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research DPS - Cost to Replace a State Trooper - 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research DPS Employee Engagement Survey Results 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research DPS Recruitment-Retention Plan Overview 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research FFD Cost of hiring from Scott Raygor Fire Chief Fairbanks 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research Legislative Finance Division Research Report on Retirement System 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research NIRS Teacher Retirement Plan Offerings March 2022 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research PERS Tier chart 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research Returning Alaska State Employees to Social Security 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research Risk Sharing in Public Retirement Plans NASRA 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research TRS Tier chart 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Summary Table Version B 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
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